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Interview with Sleepy, the founder of Talk Little Ghost: I am just a simple idealist. (Part III)

Welcome to wenser's special column in web3. Welcome to Wenser's Web3 column.

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As a representative NFT project in the Chinese-speaking region, The Weirdo Ghost has become increasingly outstanding in its continuous development. And as the "man behind The Weirdo Ghost" - founder Sleepy has always been low-key and introverted, with a sense of mystery. So today, we are pleased to have Sleepy, the founder of The Weirdo Ghost, to talk to us about his practices, understanding, and future views on The Weirdo Ghost, NFT, and the Web3 field! Without further ado, enjoy it~

Interviewer: @wenser2010

Interviewee: @Sleepy0x13

Conversation with The Weirdo Ghost Founder Sleepy: I'm Just a Simple Idealist. (Part I)

Conversation with The Weirdo Ghost Founder Sleepy: I'm Just a Simple Idealist. (Part II)

Wenser: Based on the current market popularity, development trends, and relatively low entry barriers (whether it's free mint NFTs or low-cost NFTs, newcomers can directly purchase them), many people refer to NFT as the so-called "Web3 entry point for newcomers." Do you think NFT will continue to play this role?#

Sleepy: I think NFT will continue to play the role of "entry point for newcomers." When you introduce me to Web 3, if you ask me to look at some visually appealing images or a string of code or financial terms, I would definitely choose the images.

Wenser: More intuitive?

Sleepy: Yes, and more accessible! Everyone has their own aesthetic preferences, but not everyone understands technology and finance.

Wenser: I see, that's a classic statement.

Sleepy: Yes, I think people are not very optimistic about the PFP track right now. Maybe it's because the projects in this space have limited imagination and sometimes waste their potential by generating short-term hype.

Wenser: FOMO.

Sleepy: Yes, it's a bit regrettable.

Wenser: It seems like people haven't made much progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn? You definitely can't continue to act as a "cold and aloof artist" and do things that are not in line with the role of a cold and aloof artist.

Wenser: Listening to you, it feels a bit mismatched. But indeed, it seems that people haven't made much incremental progress and are still stuck in the existing market.

Sleepy: Yes, including IP creation and artist incubation. It's rare for someone to rely solely on selling IP blind boxes. Usually, you need some value support before engaging in commercial activities. Currently, I don't really agree that 10,000 PFP avatars are purely fine art. They are more like printed posters. Artists like Kongshan Ji and Takashi Murakami have many printed posters that are framed and sold, similar to the artist collaboration blind boxes sold by Bape or IP blind boxes. They are more consumer-oriented and don't have strong artistic value. So now, if you release a set of these things, how should you use the money you earn

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